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我在美国sublease房子被骗2650美金的亲身经历,请高度关注

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发表于 2011-3-24 22:42:46 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
我叫Dan,是美国UT Austin建筑学研究生,昨天(美国中部时间2011年3月23)被骗走2650美金,现在将过程详细写出,希望在美国的中国留学生们提高警惕。
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( U  T; K! w. Z; [+ c4 d" ]6 I$ L由于室友和我都暑假计划回国,所以想将apt 在暑假sublease给别人。于是在UT CSSA上Post了sublease的广告,包括房子的各种细节。  e6 d* N1 }: b' x( [8 e! P, q3 z

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9 W; Q  i( R6 b" T. x2 l一个星期以后,一个叫Abenela的女生给我邮件,说很感兴趣我的房子,问了apt的详细情况,确定满意要租,我很高兴。 ) J1 o- x* i7 _' Q' h7 _
她告诉我她是foreshore Service的员工,现在在英国执行任务,暑假会被公司派到Austin,所以想租房,她强调所有的费用会由公司承担,所以公司会给她一张整个暑假房租的支票,她会寄给我,并且信任我扣掉第一个月的房租,并把剩下的寄还给她的travel manager。
" M7 |* o7 ~- D- I8 D3 o* y于是3天后我就收到了面额为3500美金的支票(由于房租750刀一月,我算了一下5月到8月四个月加上电和网这个数字确实合理),所以转头将钱存入了银行UFCU。 ! k7 K7 S/ v2 I1 R
接着她不断催促我将剩下的钱打给她的travel manager,并且说公司一定要用west union汇款现金。 ( r* J- v+ \; [( |
我只是觉得有些奇怪,但是想可能是她们公司的办事程序就没有多想。随后去银行准备取出2650刀(这是3500刀减去了第一月750刀房租和100刀网和电剩下的)汇走,但是银行hold住了我的账户,由于她的3500元支票我是用ATM存的,银行强调说需要几天时间collect支票并确认真伪。我认为合理,于是从17号等到22号(6天时间),22号一早,她的邮件催促我寄钱,我自认为多拿了人家钱确实应该马上寄回,于是查账,钱已到账,于是取了钱,west union汇款成功。 5 u' ^$ _( j) P2 f0 \7 X
结果23号收到她邮件,她说谢谢manager已经收到钱,但是她公司取消了行程,所以无法来Austin,希望我寄回750刀第一月房租,自己留100刀作为“违约费”。。。我仍觉得合理。。。遂去ATM机取钱,却被告知卡被偷,账户已为负数。当时已经超过5点,无法找银行argue。 & a9 R! {5 j/ T9 }* o
吓出一身冷汗,晚上跟室友说起这事,室友很严肃的分析:8 f$ x- |/ `% y  J7 W1 G( C! w# d) ~
1. 怎么能随便给陌生人寄2650刀现金?这有问题
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2. 她为什么那么催促? 有问题
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3. 都不认识我她凭什么寄那么打面额支票给我? 有问题...
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觉得自己白得透顶了,在美国大学待久了,人都nice,完全没有想过要怀疑...但是这样一分析,很可能被骗了...
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5 r" U5 T2 o1 r0 {2 }$ K但是室友安慰我:
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b。他们已经拿到第一笔钱,其实已近可以消失了,为什么再发退750刀的邮件?$ C( A6 r2 p$ r5 b

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结果:
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第二天忐忑不安地去银行一问:支票时假的。。。当时就崩溃了。。。银行把我的账户hold了6天,然后解冻后钱到账我认为是支票没有问题了,所以放心取钱出来,结果第七天他们发现支票无法兑现,就从我的账户直接扣去了3500刀。。。结果我的account直接变成负数。。。我和他们argue,怎么能在没有确认支票真伪的情况下就将我的账户激活,却之后再扣走钱呢?跟他们argue了一个小时,高强度的英语说得我口干舌燥,但是实在势单力薄,12点半还有课,只好背着大大的书包回到studio,哭着电话G,美国同学听见了上前询问,结果气愤不已,说银行是有责任的,并立马offer和我一起去银行理论,她知道我再怎么样语言也不占优势,两个人奋战了半个小时,银行的manager仍然强大的否认了银行的一切责任。。。
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但是骗子十分清楚美国银行对于支票的运作过程,赚了一个时间差,这是他们催促我汇钱的真正原因。
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在美国待了快2年,大学环境好人都很诚实,结果导致我的警惕性降到如此不可理喻。。。
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5 _0 s) i- M. s2 c5 q上网一查,这是典型的骗局,但是很多中国留学生都不知道,主要是不清楚社会运作原理和方式,而且平时学习压力大,一个人处理所有的东西,经常疏漏,被人欺负。
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2 G9 e2 o8 U4 i9 N+ @/ W所以我特意写出来,身边很多中国同学都在国外飘,都不容易,希望都要提高警惕,美国骗子很多,平时遇事请三思。我吃一堑,希望大家都长一智。/ b# ~1 X0 S4 ^, T4 R0 D8 X
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谢谢关心我的朋友,我会好好的,不用担心。: Y5 X( N( V( C

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发表于 2011-3-25 00:01:09 | 显示全部楼层
骗子很可能就是华人,极大可能是华裔美国人,否则不会看懂我的广告。我两次在CSSA上发帖子都遇到了这个骗局。太无耻,骗中国留学生这点点微薄的钱。不知你是否在看,但我想说,你这个下三滥的猪。
发表于 2018-5-8 16:37:49 | 显示全部楼层
今天收到的诈骗邮件,我就纳闷我发的中文,只留电话和QQ,为啥欧洲的美国人会给我发邮件,而且不说具体来的时间,我说9月12号以后可租,她来句as soon as all arrangements are okay by you. 呵呵,侮辱我160的智商。
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6 p1 x4 ~6 d3 \: y! rThanks so much for your reply, I am Jane Lee, 27 years old female and I work full time, Monday to Friday and have weekends off except for once a month. I was born and in Seoul and raised in America, but presently in Europe on a business trip for more than 2 weeks.......I am a professional IT Freelancer and I deal in various kinds of computer applications and software. I am very dedicated individual who is totally committed to human development, friendly, very trustworthy and value relationship above anything.
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2 l! F5 n( f2 b7 `+ zI am a laid back person, I love traveling, sporting and Enjoy meeting people around the world. I am fun loving,clean, caring, and respectful to others. a non-smoker, i don’t do drugs, i drink occasionally, and drama free. Am single and have no children… i do bible study, and sometimes we do karaoke night and i go to church every Sunday.I would really love to secure the place from you before my arrival, So i will like to know the total amount of the place per month and the utility included, Size of the Place and the equipment in there, names of Markets, Churches, Restaurants, Malls, Gym, Cinemas, e.t.c
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+ }1 p0 d2 H; u6 X# [% fI will also like to know if I can make an Advance Payment ahead of my arrival as a kind of commitment that I am truly coming over and for you to hold the place down for me since i planned coming to the states as soon as possible. I will be much glad and happy if you can get back to me as soon as possible so as to make arrangement for you to get the payment before my arrival to hold and consider the place is mine.% j3 e4 U2 ~( j
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& u; o  ^* M. d+ V  o* }Thanks so much for responding, Honestly, i must confess I'm comfortable with  the cost and it is okay by me. I will like to make the Rental Fee ahead of my arrival as a act of commitment that shows that am very much interested in renting the place,I should be arriving as Soon as all  arrangements are okay by you and i will be signing applications upon my arrival.
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4 h- z. b  E# k$ H  As for my mode of payment, My company will be responsible for sending my paycheck to you because it's an American check and i can't use them here in Europe because it can only be changed to cash in America. So if this okay with you, I will like them to mail the check to you via USPS Courier Service Overnight Delivery
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Therefore i will need your following information below so as to prepare the check:; ~* Z6 z" N( _5 \+ P7 g$ F
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Your full name as it will appear on the check,. o0 I3 o5 u: c6 ~9 j
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I will also like to know the nearest airport to the house.I will also like to know if you will be available to come pick me up from the airport and show me around or if I should make alternative arrangement.I'll be so glad if you can reserve the Place for me and help remove all your the adverts about the place as I'll love to rent the place.I am more interested in a long term lease, but still open to any form of lease you want and i will get all paperwork done when i arrive.Well, i think we will get along well because am a easy going person who respects ones privacy, like I said I don't do drugs or smoke but I drink only occasionally,  I am always on line on my Kakao Talk. Try and Message me, My Kakao talk ID is caligirl101  I5 ]6 G+ b+ i# g
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I'll be so glad if you can reserve the place for me and get back to me with the information i requested so as to prepare the Check.3 ?# a9 m) h. X+ L$ J
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发表于 2017-7-27 13:47:03 | 显示全部楼层
真是可怕啊
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感谢楼主分享。
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发表于 2011-3-25 20:10:51 | 显示全部楼层
这类骗局现在很多,我就收到过无数次。我曾经也是怀疑,亲自通过电话“接触”过他们。听声音,英文口语很差,跟他们的Email差不多。但华人可能性很小。我不同意上面“骗子很可能就是华人”的说法。虽然每次回国,都被听到见到的新旧骗局吓得处处谨慎小心,因为从小最恨骗子。但这类骗局还真大多不是华人。5 U5 R( J  |6 t3 W6 ?7 C5 B$ `
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当Email不知道来路时,去google查查收到的邮件相关的“关键词”+“scam”。 其实很多人都被受骗,或者差一点被骗,都有把他们的经历给大家分享,提醒注意。但这里看到同学被骗,还是恨得我牙痒痒的!& U; i2 W  ]3 B+ O4 @8 ^
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给大家提供几个网页:7 d+ ?' O4 k+ y  q8 a, I
1. http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx  大多数Internet相关的scam都归FBI下面的IC3管。大多我们经历的,都有人report过;
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2. http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/reporting.php 提供很多scam的警告。几乎所有的scam这里都找到到。下次不肯定的时候,可以去那里查查;
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$ R' e- H0 B8 N1 P& U3 i" F3. http://www.westernunion.com/WUCO ... c=gg_US_security_en  这页的右上角有WesternUnion 的热线。希望这个能用得上。UFCU不理会你,我可以想象得到。但可以试试WesternUnion,看看是不是可以帮你追回骗款。
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发表于 2011-3-25 09:36:36 | 显示全部楼层
转载知情人士对这种诈骗手段的解释:& ^/ M- y; v/ _, m& ]
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其实是银行的操作漏洞。大额支票存进去以后,特别像这种Out-of-state的大额支票,银行很容易就会put a hold on the account,也就是冻结收款人账户部分款项一段时间,就是为了向这张支票的发行银行确认写支票的人账户里确实有这么多钱。确认钱会到账以后才会把支票上的数额存进收款人的账户里面。然而有一个操作漏洞——其实可能是为了方便收款人的提款需要,但这个方便其实也是个漏洞。钱还没确认到账的时候,收款人存支票的银行已经先把这笔钱打进了收款人账户。 可能几天以后银行会发现支票是假的,那么收款人账上的那笔钱又会被扣除。这等于银行让收款人承受所有损失,其实是种不太厚道的做法——毕竟是他们的操作漏洞。可惜银行的Manager永远口舌强大,不会承认这种损失的…
发表于 2011-3-24 22:59:54 | 显示全部楼层
唉,每年都要听说这种事情发生在中国学生身上,看来以后每年对新生的第一教育就应该是如何防止受骗。建议CSSA新生组的人赶紧把这一条落实到新生工作中去吧。$ d0 r5 V4 [7 `% {' r2 z& F

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发表于 2011-3-24 23:26:20 | 显示全部楼层
zoudan639 发表于 2011-3-25 04:42 $ ~$ Q1 s0 A3 Y, U! X
我叫Dan,是美国UT Austin建筑学研究生,昨天(美国中部时间2011年3月23)被骗走2650美金,现在将过程详细 ...

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发表于 2011-3-24 23:40:14 | 显示全部楼层
听说不仅有用假支票,还有利用跨行支票的转帐时间差诈骗的,大家要多个心眼呀!
发表于 2011-3-24 23:44:08 | 显示全部楼层
我前段时间收到一模一样的邮件!7 r9 y* c. S( `2 U  i; ^
觉得这人怎么既没有要看照片,也没问其他情况,只问了价钱也没还价就定下要了, 而且这么怪异的付款方式加上这么随便就给陌生人汇款,当时就觉得非常奇怪没有再回复他.% H' X+ B2 ~% X% q) [
看了楼主的帖子真是惊出一身冷汗.! G2 [* ?$ o  J' f5 g: v
希望大家以后多多注意吧...
发表于 2011-3-24 23:47:15 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 lzhjliu 于 2011-3-25 05:50 编辑 , B( e- ^$ u7 G4 F

4 J8 p2 [' \3 E唉,这是一个典型的诈骗手段,主题基本不遍,比如租房,买车之类的,我出租房,卖车都已经历。
发表于 2011-3-24 23:47:24 | 显示全部楼层
刚把邮件翻了出来,肯定是同一个/伙人,名字都没变.对了,当时还注意到邮件的所有单词首字母全部大写,不知楼主是否有注意到. 把邮件贴出来给大家做个提醒.+ a- ^- n/ T/ L, n
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I Appreciate Your Response Towards My Request.I Am
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HOME ADDRESS:
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Best Regards
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发表于 2011-3-24 23:53:55 | 显示全部楼层
我也贴一个,你看是不是一样:  T* a) l6 s: r; @7 u* m" I
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Responsible For The Payment Of The Apartment/Room. ' M' b. k. R) r1 ?7 p. T, q1 D
And The Payment Is Going To Be Issue Out In Excess - y! D8 z: E1 R/ J
On Money Order Or Cheque On Your Name Or Any One Of
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. L  N$ c  O9 V7 g. |+ }3 k6 J" MHere, I Will Like To Trust You On The Excess On ( i3 ~$ a4 a4 g! L  e5 [
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Station Allowances.And As Soon As You Get The $ J" Z3 F7 H) L8 a1 I9 r$ H6 U
Payment,Deduct Your Money And Send The Remainder To
: [0 ?7 P, Q; M  I# L2 v; DMy Travel Manager For My Flight Ticket To Your ( Q& m6 X+ {) N9 k. g5 b
Country And The New House.% Q6 ]9 ~* G. a+ d' R9 ?7 \
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If You Agree On This Get Back To Me Asap With Your : f1 j' A  M# Q, y) J
Full Information:
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HOME ADDRESS:
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* d! h; v! @. k$ w3 F1 S! u  G9 kBest Regards
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只是改了几个字母,基本都一样
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