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发表于 2006-5-10 13:33:35 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
[ADMINOPE=webadmin|cavalry|威望由 0 增加至 1|Thanks for your feedback!|1147580882][这个贴子最后由cavalry在 2006/05/10 02:36pm 第 1 次编辑]
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I got an email from our former CSSA member, share with you guys.
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2 A( L+ `* R) vMeanwhile, I do have some reservation about limiting UTCSSA mailing
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to official message delivery by UTCSSA. The decision appeared to be 6 H& ]; K. A$ J9 b9 a8 ^# G
solely3 R+ Q& z) n0 n9 {$ y- X* g
based on the spamming issue. However, many factors may be revelant for  W, t+ v# @4 [4 K9 D8 ]( H
such an important move:" K, J0 M7 ~6 q6 e% N
(1) a person can always unsubscribe if the mailing list is a spam
/ N- |: s; |2 `) d) ]according to his/her individual feeling.
3 ~% X0 g" r0 n2 J" c) G(2) UTCSSA mailing list includes a significant number subscribers who ; S* S5 {6 }( Q) L
are
. S; o7 C# t: {, `6 F35 years or older. These people seldom read any BBS. Therefore, the
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of people that UTCSSA can reach will be reduced after switching to BBS.6 L0 Y- F5 N7 i1 K0 o% v
(3) As a BBS system, UTCSSA BBS faces the competition from MITBBS and
7 ]3 V1 t* r, C+ gother BBSs. As an online advertisement system, UTCSSA BBS faces the* y( w" Y; J* {3 B0 Z
competition from Austin360.com and other local websites.
. T: v8 Z" @( Y/ |/ JUTCSSA mailing list has established its leading position in Austin over
& h8 u  o- Z4 n2 Q/ Cother Chinese mailing list by ACPS, CASPA because its precedence in
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0 \. X6 T2 V% }UTCSSA BBS won';t have such time advantage over MITBBS or Austin360.com,
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even the latest Chinese website austin.txchinese.com; h8 F" A( {) r- D. E" n- [. c
(4) If UTCSSA mailing list is reduced to daily summary and official- P8 y' A6 C/ S
announcement, its activeness2 y2 A3 [# U' G# N" J$ K% ^
will be reduced, so will its impact.& r9 `# c/ t0 m; Y. M2 w
(5) A mailing list itself provides some features that a BBS doesn';t
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Some people like a mailing list better than a BBS (despite occasional
. `( V8 y5 t9 a" jspamming). Otherwise, no mailing list may exist in this world any more0 r: S! C- J$ y! S* Q& J
after the birth of online BBS.
5 n6 R2 X- l$ X3 r) Y5 ]) M; u2 rAnyway, in today';s complex world, to make a wise decision requires0 j6 U# O& M; ]- s8 z
extensive critical thinking that may involve numerous variables. This
/ I9 W6 c" N5 X% n! i! umailing list/BBS issue could be the first important that this new EC 9 H/ ?2 A% |" U: w2 y) v
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I hope you could forward this email to EC members to stir up further1 U! h7 N8 S, ]
discussion. I expect criticism. Most likely, I won';t have time to
8 i( z* s6 [7 ?8 ^7 N0 c" ofollow up on this. Just hope the criticism will lead to a proper decision, not
' d& m  {. B9 C8 F7 C; knecessarily in agreement with my view.
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发表于 2006-5-10 14:25:49 | 显示全部楼层

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[ADMINOPE=webadmin|leo|威望由 0 增加至 1|Thanks for your discussion!|1147580937][这个贴子最后由leo在 2006/05/10 04:49pm 第 2 次编辑]
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Let me argue with you one by one:+ H- f3 _  d9 b* P, o
1. A person may get into dilemma postion to subscribe it. He want to get up-to-date infromation,but he dont want spams geting into his box. I know many UT students subscribe it when they just came here, but they will unsubscribe it after they got stable. Some of them will subscribe it only when they want to sell their goods or want to get help from it. We dont want to make it as a hot chicken (want to eat but dont want be hurt).
4 I8 Y4 d) m/ N- tPeople always want to store some useful resources in others'; store room, not his own, if it is a safe place and will be free. How could you solve it? Through BBS.
2 p: O; {/ r1 I1 j: `- |( w* N% m4 ]2. We acknowledge those significant number of subscribers who are 35 years or older. That is why we will send a DIGEST everyday for new information to our subscribers. Could we lose them from it?4 _( M( Q  M9 @  H( S1 N0 g$ c. f
On the Contrary, they will enjoy an email just less than 30K every day. And they have their rights to choose if they want to open each topic by themselves.
1 n0 [3 |/ g6 ^8 [. [* F  TWe dont want to work like a force to give pressrue to everybody. This is USA.
# ^/ g- `: u6 I0 ~/ }3. We have our own "niche market" in Austin!
0 i3 J0 s" a2 ], g2 n) X$ TMit dont know what Austin has. Austin 360 dont know Chinese residents want.
$ j/ k' W: L2 U% @1 V8 b$ V. _Could you sell your car to Mit? Could you let new student log into UT through Mit BBS (It is blocked by China. It develops its business in US)? Could austin.txchinese.com attract (or employ) so many intelligent students to contribute their knowledge and information here? Every web site has his own shining points. We serve they dont have. (Wal Mart is best in US, but HEB is best in Texas)., l: {' N) a8 z" c. L/ S
We are a non-profit org. We just want to serve better to our local members. We dont have so big an ambition.1 s% Y; S6 H) E# D# i' M
But we will add any usefull link to our league web list, so that everybody can get into it through us.
8 l9 B1 }& e' `, k# ~4. If you need so urgent information, you can publish it in BBS.
6 h8 r4 c: {8 i& S, b  r2 H( ?, x# MBTW. What infor is so urgent, that you want everyone know immediately?0 B1 ?8 K( C( i, d4 J
We will let every body know urgent, if it is valuable. ! m' u, K- v' E+ g
What do you mean by saying lose activeness? BBS is active enough, at least more active than mailing list.(interactive, functionality, interface...)
9 ^) t% B; H# y9 b! h& I2 ]: E5. Almost all mailing lists existing in this world are for official usage! You should believe the truth. Please check all the UT mailing list to see if you have right to reply them all.1 Q/ q- |! C0 S0 p2 L6 `  E
We will operate our business by using best strategies as we know! * k; _! C/ D: ]1 V0 w
As you mentioned in today';s complex world, to make a wise decision requires';extensive critical thinking that may involve numerous variables. That is why we think we have to do a better job to serve our diversified community nowadays. A better operation model will attract more and more people to join and enjoy the benefits we share.
, i& T+ I7 _0 ]2 _ :em03: Thank you very much for your concern about UTCSSA issues. We need more and more persons to support our org so that we can serve our members better and better!
) _9 ]9 E3 P- Y, I6 v8 x( }Sincerely.
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发表于 2006-5-11 10:10:07 | 显示全部楼层

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[ADMINOPE=webadmin|BHB|威望由 1 增加至 2|Thanks for your sharing the opinion!|1147581008]怎么变成辩论会了?
# u+ V* a. c7 ~6 s  R( E我觉得两者可以共存,但是发信权限应该限制。这样并不会影响订户数量,除非他们本来就不需要我们的信息。如果他们真的不需要我们的信息,那么也不必强求数字上的人数多少。
7 r, ]) [, S3 u- ?+ Y$ \% N中老年人的问题比较好解决。一般说来他们很少群发邮件,浏览功能通过digest email完全可以实现。
9 P- W" |: z; S4 j8 R/ U* j9 J( J0 g- y所谓竞争力的问题,我觉得并不存在。不妨承认我们的竞争力比不过MITBBS Austin360,但是两者并不矛盾。我们应该注重提供一些Local的服务。这就够了,这也就是我们Mailing list和BBS存在的全部意义——绝对不是争夺网络排名。[DISABLELBCODE]
发表于 2006-5-11 18:45:34 | 显示全部楼层

Mailing list/BBS

赞同并存。
9 C/ m4 e5 M. [( I6 q8 o" wlz的很多说法我赞同。特别是bbs刚刚开始,人气不旺,很多信息交流不及时。mailing list就是有益的补充了。。。ms像政治作业。。。
发表于 2006-5-11 20:01:19 | 显示全部楼层

Mailing list/BBS

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  h  b5 \* J2 f1 [Seems here is NOBODY said mailing list will be cancelled...
' }9 f5 m: |' E8 b* FAm I right? Weird...! u* ?4 L. A5 e" [  b
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发表于 2006-5-14 00:19:50 | 显示全部楼层

Mailing list/BBS

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/ n& o: ^8 |1 V- Q0 e' U国内的学生还是用BBS比较多,Telnet or Web。用mailing list的人很少。所以对于新来的人适应BBS应该更容易。我是今年即将过去的新生,为了获取信息定制了mailing list,一开始还有兴趣看看,后来就只浏览信件标题了,除非碰到有兴趣的才会点开看看。' Q- _+ T, J2 N) O/ ~* e
所以个人感觉来讲,BBS通过不同版面能更好地将信息进行分类,是一种更有效的信息发布/寻找方式。不过就联系来讲mailing list还是更方便,直接回复即可,不像bbs回复后也不知道多久对方能看到。但是,如果在这里发信息,估计一般也会留下联系方式,所以这就不是问题了。4 f. q/ T% P. p# K4 P0 T" }
不过不赞同版面太多、分类太细,否则无法保持人气和文章数,这样大家关注的兴趣也会越来越低。mailing list实际就像一个大的综合版,什么信息都有,所以为了不遗失有用信息,你不得不硬着头皮看所有标题,但也正因为这样,使得它的吸引力不会丢失。
发表于 2006-5-14 14:15:09 | 显示全部楼层

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[ADMINOPE=webadmin|yangxz|威望由 1 增加至 2|Thanks for your reasonable analysis!|1148787538]在国内时,刚知道自己要来UT Austin,首先想到的是我应该到学校的网页上看看,特别是UT CSSA的BBS。没人告诉我这里有一个mailing list。也不觉得大部分信息应该从mailing list获取。在国内上惯了BBS,怎么着都觉得比mailing list更好用。只不过后来发现BBS上的消息经常没人理,而且还奇怪怎么这么大一个学校没几个人上网?想必有我这样感觉的新生不在少数。一直到来到这里,才被告知大家都用mailing list,BBS几乎被废弃了。不得已才订了这个mailing list,每天收到几十封对我毫无用处的邮件,如果几天有事忘了看,连有用的信件都几乎找不到了。特别是有些卖东西的照片,附件有十来兆大。有时还在mailing list上吵架。6 {% x* e7 ^/ r& j" t; \9 o
BBS不仅仅是对内,更重要的是对外的功能。校外的人如果想看看这里的一些信息,恐怕首先要找的是BBS,而不是订阅mailing list。至于说方便不方便,就完全是一个习惯问题了。难道登陆BBS比登陆信箱要复杂很多吗?快速不快速就更没有区别了。反正我个人是不会随时监控这个收取海量信件的信箱的内容的。
发表于 2006-6-2 08:46:09 | 显示全部楼层

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I personally believe the mailing list is more friendly. Everyone has equal right there. In contrast, on this bbs, the hierarchical structure makes me really uncomfortable and definately prohibits my parcitipations.
$ i( F. p; [% O) NRegarding the spam problem, it is not a problem for me at all. I used gmail to subscribe to the list and deletion of many emails is fairly easy for me.5 H6 x; }1 w! w7 p  N; g/ b0 O
Anyway, I strongly suggest the administration hold a vote on BBS and ON MAILING LIST, and see what most people like better, not just by verbal poll from your friends. People with similar minds tend to become friends, but making policies based on friends tends to cause segregation too.
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